Uni project character design

[Tom]

The brief for this week is to have modeled up to the waist by Tuesday.

This is what I have do far (3ds max):

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/001.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/002.jpg
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/003.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/004.jpg
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/005.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/006.jpg
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/007.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/008.jpg
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/009.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/010.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

you need some zbrush pass i think...

[Tom]

what is a zbrush pass?

[weiluntsai]

what is a zbrush pass?

I guess he means you may put into zbrush for further more sculpting.
you can check the pic I made it before :rofl:507

[Tom]

ahhh cheers mate!! That will come in handy when i get sculpting in zbrush

:thumbsup:

also here an update:

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/016.jpg


I'm thinking maybe make a cowboy?

ooh there is a 6k poly count limit to my brief

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/017.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

at what age have you beginning the 3d? tomy can i call you tomy what is your nickname call me seb!

[Tom]

I started using 3d when I was 14 =] I'm now 19

I am a first year at University of Hertfordshire:

http://uhanimation.co.uk/

[Tom]

update** working on the hands today I think I have a good start with them few more but still a few more tweaks needed:

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand001.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand002.jpg
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand003.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand004.jpg
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand005.jpghttp://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand006.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

your modeling is like a randomized model try to be more orginized sorry for my english i hope you understand!
but the proportion is good verry good look at your hand it the best ref because generaly every body have got too!

[sebcravoisier]

i take a look at your university and it seam like paradise for me!
is it real?

[Tom]

ahh cheers for the crit =]

yeah it is real and its million times better then it looks :P

they have a student forum too if u wanna check it out its www.3dhit.co.uk

[sebcravoisier]

how many cost for one year of studing ?:bouncy:

[Tom]

here is some more info =]

http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/fees-and-funding/undergraduate/full-time-fees-uk-eu.cfm

http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/3D-Digital-Animation-BA_fees.cfm

http://www.herts.ac.uk/courses/3D-Digital-Animation-BA_details.cfm

[Tom]

is this any better?

http://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand007.jpghttp://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand008.jpg
http://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand009.jpghttp://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand010.jpg
http://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand011.jpghttp://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/hand/hand012.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

your finger is to fine for me it look like a cartoon female do you understant?
sorry for my english i' m learning.
tell me more about your modeling technic end the soft you are using?
i think it s' 3ds max i'm not sure!?
i will take a look on the link upthere!

[Tom]

I have been following this guys video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1mExXURsWk

also it is 3ds max =]

and im kind of trying to get a more of a man hand should i thicken fingers up?

[sebcravoisier]

if you follow this methode i'm sure you v'got 2 pictures of an hand!
like the tutorial, observe and understant, now you 'v got it son!
:) :notWorthy: :love:

[sebcravoisier]

try to have regular space with the vertex not every were but i'can say it in english
and copy your finger make one perfect finger and copy it and join it with the other with the hand ok?
dont foget to modifing your finger in foction of wath you see
cheers... :rofl:

[Tom]

http://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/head/head002.jpg

http://www.dentys-fx.com/uni/human/head/head003.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

i'can make a tutorial with hypercam or explaine you my pipline methode for modeling human body but it will take to mutch time i'm very sorry but something is rong in your modeling.
can you teatch me your modeling technic? for correcting your style no i mean for more realisting modeling...
:rofl::beerchug: cheers

[Tom]

i'can make a tutorial with hypercam or explaine you my pipline methode for modeling human body but it will take to mutch time i'm very sorry but something is rong in your modeling.
can you teatch me your modeling technic? for correcting your style no i mean for more realisting modeling...
:rofl::beerchug: cheers


Yeah that be really cool is i could see you pipeline :D

as for the head i modeled i start with the eyes and mouth and extruded from there and used bridge and swift loop tools till i ended up with the face.

after reading you comment this morrning and some i had on the uni forums i spent a lot of time looking in how to make the cuts etc.. this is what i made

programe used is maya and time taken is 14 hours solid to get to this (still go a lot to do):

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/blocking%20out/blockingout_007.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

i'm very proud of you!
now you can make the head better!
go! johnny! go! johnny go! johnny be good!

[Tom]

Still working on it

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/char/char001.jpg

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/char/char004.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

nice mesh !
are you going to use zbrush?

[Tom]

nice mesh !
are you going to use zbrush?

Yeah i might have a go on some parts

Im going to make a crazy person that likes balloon's and bright colours :P

also here some research before i draw the concept(ringed things are important):

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/concept/research.jpg

[sebcravoisier]

all of us never see that!!!

[Tom]

ahhh Iv been think I come up with this:

The character collects and wears colourful objects to make up for his dark past.... more to come

[sebcravoisier]

very interesting!
are u going to do some desing, please?

[Tom]

=] yup along with two more different design we need 3 for the brief

First i need to do some essay's =[

[sebcravoisier]

i'm ok for that!

[Tom]

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/concept/character%20idea.jpg


I'm trying to go for the fable style but i just cant seem to draw it how i see it in my head lol.

There have also been changes made to the character he now has a magpie that sits on his shoulder and its the characters only friend. the magpie also finds shiny things for the character to collect =]

another idea is :

having all the clothes dull with a couple of patches here and there but on the shoes having paint splatters and a little sack that he keep his shiny things in

[sebcravoisier]

that's a pretty idea, maybe you can make a hat with a long feather or a flower or some thing like that.
i like the bird it's a cool idea!

[Tom]

i started to clean this up but i'm not sure how to get the details i'm am after i really want to make this concept in the style of fable http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1200000/Fable-2-screenshot-Poor-Family-fable-1299927-678-768.jpg:

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/concept/idea2.jpg

[Tom]

UPDATE

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/concept/conceptofman.jpg

[Tom]

wip just started sculpting:

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/zbrush/001.jpg

[PascalR]

Hi Tom,

I would recommend learning the basic facial anatomy, you don't need to know all the muscles names but just to keep in mind where muscles/bones and fat tissues live.
There are some good anatomy references links in this thread here:

http://www.cgfeedback.com/cgfeedback/showthread.php?t=8

Also I would try to match a specific photo reference to start with, it is super hard to sculpt a proper face from memory.

Also some inspirational works here:

http://www.selwy.com/

Keep it up! :beerchug:

[Tom]

cheers for the advice i decided to step back and look at the model overall i changed the proportion so there correct?

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/zbrush/update.jpg

[Tom]

changes

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/zbrush/meshcleanup3.jpg

[PascalR]

sorry just a quick reply for now, your proportions look ok, but the armpit seems too low, the pectoral connection to the shoulder should be higher

keep it up!

[Tom]

This any better?
http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/zbrush/zbrush.jpg

[nghia59]

Hi Tom, just a note about where this model is heading for now. There are a lot of small things that are throwing it out whack that are adding up to becoming larger problems down the road.

First off there are books that you can find to help you out on anatomy and proportions. Here's a link to some books in PDF format that are way out of print and should be standard learning for students but sadly aren't these days:

http://alexhays.com/loomis/

http://ineedfile.com/andrew-loomis-pdf

Other things that you might want to consider is getting to know your edge looping and the way it should work correctly. Here's a link to a really good article on how to control the looping on a mesh and exercises on making them:

http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93651


I know it's a bit long and involved but these resources will help guide you for the rest of your career.

Since you are a Maya artist I recommend looking at Nex to help smooth the work flow of your poly modeling. It has a bunch of tools that will ease the pain of soft selection and raycasting:

http://draster.com/nex-1.5/

Finally one thing that you should really do is take your time and not rush things as it seems that you are in a hurry to finish the model. Slow down and model each piece as precisely as possible and test fit for proportions as you go. The cleaner and more exacting you work the better the outcome will be. The more you do it the faster you will get at it.

Keep it up man! Remember that all this is going to lead to great things! :thumbsup:

[PascalR]

Great advice nghia, would be great to post those to the reference thread if not done already :thumbsup:

[nghia59]

Just posted!

:thumbsup:

[sebcravoisier]

great links

[Tom]

Ahh cheers guys these link are awesome :D really help as for Loomis the tutors we have at uni makes everyone read it :P

I forgot to put up the adjustments i made to the mesh before zbrush

here i am working on the asset at the moment the top.

i texture the legs of the character so i could see how it would look before i spent ages modeling it but you get the idea all the clothing bits will be modeled lol i have till 2morrow night at 9pm to get this done :D

also this mesh i show is un-smoothed

http://dentys-fx.com/uni/human/zbrush/wip2.jpg

[Tom]

Hey long time no post been extremely busy with essay =[

but i have been working on this character more we had a brief to make a rig this is first time i have used Maya:

http://www.vimeo.com/10524313

still working on the rig going to improve on it

also we have been given another 6 weeks to add more to the character.


other projects have been set:

character animation show reel

and

Arch Vis

I will be making thread of these once I have something worth showing =]